Comments on: To be a web developer

By: Karol Zielinski

Karol Zielinski — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:47:42 +0000

I wrote about it some time ago…

maybe you could be interested:
http://blog.karolzielinski.com/charasterics-of-good-web-developer

By: prashant

prashant — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:18:38 +0000

Nice article.

Thanks
Prashant

By: dekarvn

dekarvn — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:13:19 +0000

From what I have experienced (would might be wrong or inconsistent with others experience). It’s used to be that the web developer would work in parallel with the web designer.
The web developer produce the HTML/basic CSS to get things running (maybe just a list of divs and spans with correct ordering) and PHP code that generate basic stuff.
The designer then spice it up with fancy-full CSS and images, flash or videos…. (this is often called templating)
The developer then work with the designer for the UI – Mainly javascripting…

Somehow I feel it’s much better that the Web Developer should also have (maybe a little bit) of designing skill, and the Web Designer should also have a bit of coding skill -> So that they can understand each other better, or even replacing each other in some situation

By: Stoyan

Stoyan — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:55:16 +0000

I do not think the developer should design HTML files at all. The developer could prototype the templates:

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The designer should decorate them:

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Of course, we cannot separate the things 100%, as the heavy javascript is also developer’s work. And the javascript depends (in many cases) on the html structure…

By: dekarvn

dekarvn — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:24:12 +0000

About the CSS. I was thinking in the same department. It’s for the designer to worry about. But when I think about the trouble the designer have to go through to “CSS” our design.

Of course while developing apps, we will have some styles (may that be embedded fonts or colour tags) that would provide immediate feedback…

The designer would have A LOT of trouble reading our badly designed HTML files and try to squeeze their CSS in to style them.

I’m just thinking on the “standardize” way of web developing

By: Stoyan

Stoyan — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:23:43 +0000

I disagree with CSS – I know the basics of CSS, but not beyond that. For example, I cannot slice photoshop templates, I know almost nothing about css positioning and so on…
Alghough I claim, I am above average web developer.
While I agree with the other 6 technology points, in my opinion the CSS is designer’s work, especially the browser quirks.

By: Giorgio Sironi

Giorgio Sironi — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:40:38 +0000

I would argue too that a javascript framework such as Dojo or Jquery is more focused that javascript. Also knowing *your* Sql database is more useful than using standard Sql, for instance to choose column types.

By: dekarvn

dekarvn — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:25:13 +0000

Thanks for all of your kind comments. What I do think is:

Basic Graphic, yes, is very essential, but there is more to it than meets the eye. Graphics got a lot of complexity level that cannot be described in short.

About javascript, maybe just the minimum basic is needed (for basic understanding). Further development should be done based on an existing framework, or else it would be horrible to read and to implement.

By: pradeep

pradeep — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:02:23 +0000

yeh a good path for a new learner ……but i think javadcript/client side server should be xplained a little more….because all depends upon it how beutiful ur site is going to be…

By: codex73

codex73 — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:18:18 +0000

I agree totally. Also I think the list should contain a item 8 which could be ‘Basic Graphic Design’ which is always needed to accomplish most UI and job requirements. Thanks